Ep. 2.39 Being alternative in the workplace

In Season 2 episode 38 of Skate Date, Shove and Rebel talk about what it's like to have tattoos and colored hair in the workplace. They speak about the importance of having your own style, and what it feels like to be muted at work. Is it worth the paycheck? Find out in this episode.
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Transcript

Shove: 0:09

What's up, everybody? Welcome to skate day. Hello, we're back.

Rebel: 0:13

I feel like it's been a really long time. Oh, it's cuz it's been two weeks technically since we recorded an episode of skate date. But we still had a skate date episode come out last week because we were. What's that? prepared? We thought ahead.

Shove: 0:30

No, Lord. It is finally winter. It is for reusing in the garage. Yeah. Did you miss us complaining about how cold it is? Because it's really cold in here. Like it took so long. Just setting up the camera the right way. That in that time, I'm like, Okay, now my chest, my nose and my cheeks are frozen. I feel like we're staying in some like winter cabin. And if you hear the humming of a heater, like a little space heater, you're just gonna have to deal with it because

Rebel: 1:00

yeah, Bowie need his need his needs the heater and soda shoves feet. Anyways, this escape date. I am rebel. I'm shove and together we are shovel.

Shove: 1:14

Can you dig it? Yes. Can you dig it? Oh, can you dig me how I have new hair. I'm got my hair done a new Long Beach so on called black sheep. In a love it. It's still like super shrinkage. So I'm like, but I love the color.

Rebel: 1:40

Yeah, if you are watching or listening on the podcast, like on just sound instead of watching on the YouTube shove has hot pink hair.

Shove: 1:52

And she got a little haircut. Mm hmm. Little shaping. Mm curls are poppin

Rebel: 1:57

and it's bright AF. But for some reason on the video. It looks red, but it's not red. It's hot pink. But remember that one time that I wore that hot pink jacket? It also looked like I was wearing a red jacket.

Shove: 2:11

Yeah, true. Yeah, we were colorblind. I don't know. Now maybe that camera is colorblind. Have you been?

Rebel: 2:19

I've been good. I've been pretty stressed and overwhelmed. But we are pushing through. And I'm finally starting to feel like maybe it's going to ease up soon. Maybe?

Shove: 2:34

I don't know if I know you, which I think I do. I hope I do. It will not be easing up anytime soon. Well, that's rude. You always just add like, oh, no, I have free time. Let me pick up a new project or another job? Well, no, I mean, like, I just want to be at my regular level of stress. I don't want to be it super amounts of stress. But now that like super amounts of stress is like your new norm. It's gonna feel like you don't have enough on your plate.

Rebel: 3:04

No, but it's it's my new norm, but I hate it. And I've never been in a spot where I was just like, I literally hate the amount of things that I'm doing. Like it's making me crazy, and I'm feeling super, super overwhelmed. I don't think I've ever gotten to that point before. So I feel like it's actually like a big deal this time. And anyways, yeah, enough about that. We don't even talk about that. So today we are going to talk about alternative people at work, aka colored hair and tattoos at in the workplace. And we're also going to talk about shows trip to Miami. I'm excited. Did anything else happen? That was exciting for you this last week? No. I watched a movie that made me cry really hard. And I also watched a movie that made me laugh and laugh and feel so loving and happy. It's my new favorite game movie. My new favorite gay Christmas movie now my new favorite game movie. It takes more than just one Christmas movie to turn.

Shove: 4:14

My favorite movie? Yeah, anyways. Do you know what it is? Bam. Single all the way. The movie that I was like, hey, there's a gay movie that is like now she has everything that she just like? I said it was a gay person. Sue me and you're like I'm in? No, no, no more. Yeah, he didn't even want to see the trailer and they said I'm a FOMO sexual. She was like yeah, new favorite movie. I'm a FOMO section. Are you being a fomos actual Yes. So good. It's cuz I relate to it. And then I made her watch. Step mom for the first time, which broke my freaking heart. It was so sad. Ugly cried it's fine. Yeah, it was crazy.

Rebel: 4:57

Anyways, before we jump on it We have a Zadie dad, an ad for the Zadie is. That's all of you all of yours.

Shove: 5:09

Oh my gosh. Okay,

Rebel: 5:11

so something you may or may not know about me from having watched videos or seen me on the internet or heard me talking on this podcast is that I absolutely do not like working out. I have no interest in trying to make my body work out because I don't like it. But there is one thing that I hate more than any other part of working out and it is the you know, it is planks. Yes, it is planks. I hate I detest, I have the strongest feelings of hatred towards planking. And I feel like no matter where I go, or what I do, every workout has planks in it is not the worst beam.

Shove: 6:02

Um, yes.

Rebel: 6:06

So like, there comes a certain point when you are skating where like, if you want to level up anymore, you literally have to work on your core. Like you just have to

Shove: 6:20

Yeah, it's like a core. What is it? Who is she? We don't know her? Yeah, I want to know her. So I come on that trip.

Rebel: 6:26

Yeah, you have to get acquainted in order to like land tricks or like do the next level of whatever it is you're trying to do. So like, the biggest thing that people do when they're talking about their core is they do planks, and I freaking hate that. So I've just avoided trying to get a core. But then I found this a magical teacher and her name is kinase, kid, ace. Kid, Ace teaches yoga for skaters, and is just a general all around badass. And she is releasing today. You heard it here first, folks. Today, she is releasing a plank lists core workout. And it's blank lists. But it is a core workout. It helps you to build your core. It's specifically for skaters. And it's three like about 15 ish minute little workouts that is supposed to train you in strengthening your core, and me and shove did it and who I feel strengthened. And I also feel like I should probably do it again. And not just give up at certain points and stare at Kitties and think Wow, you're so talented. But I know that if I kept doing it, I would actually get better and then be able to like fully fully do it. But so kid ace creates these workout videos for skaters. And she is an incredible skater so strong, so strong, like literally

Shove: 8:06

didn't even pay attention to like the video because I was just like, whoa, why is he built like a freaking ballerina like that? That thigh muscles alone? I was just like, am I gonna thighs like that? At the end of this. I was also thinking that I was thinking oh my gosh, they are most powerful, much muscles skater. Like what? Superhero bar body

Rebel: 8:32

and you can tell it when she skates. Like if you watch her skate, you're like, Oh, of course she has a core and like she like she teaches all this other stuff. So I like that she makes working out accessible to people who aren't like crazy into working out like I wouldn't feel intimidated to do another video with her or to repeat the video that we did the other day because I felt like you know, I don't know, I just felt

Shove: 9:01

like he was willing to call me he was nice. I just felt like your friend was just like come on. Let's just do this or find me like okay,

Rebel: 9:09

which was really great. So we definitely recommend that you get the plank LIS core workout from Kid ace. And the if you're in the area where she is holding a workshop that's like yoga for skaters. Or if you want to watch videos that she has that are yoga for skaters, we highly recommend that you go and you do that because seriously, investing in a person that is also a skater so they understand how your body works. And also is not like some no offense to the gym bros out there but some gym bro that is just kind of like let's get this many reps in for you know, whatever external motivation when someone can talk to you and be like, Oh, you want to learn how to Bahrani like you're gonna need To do like this, this and this, or like, Oh, you want to be able to strengthen yourself for these tricks and enhance your core you need to do these things and they're gonna equate to the things that you do as a skater like I just think that that so worth the money you know, very worth the money. Anyway, so support kid ace and do a plank LIS core workout and let us know how it goes because

Shove: 10:25

my core still hurts and how all right, should we jump into the real world? Let's go Welcome to the real, the real world where we talk about things that happen outside of roller skating, and in the real world. Alright, so we're gonna talk about what it's like to have colored hair, tattoos, maybe both of them, maybe one of them. And the workplace. Yeah. So, I mean, I've had tattoos and colored hair in the workplace for the entirety of my work existence for the most part. What about you? Did you have colored hair though? When did you start coloring your hair for work? And work at the same time? Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. We're having fun color. So we started dating him. Yeah, that's right. Your tattoos were very easy to hide. They were very easy to hide. You just recently took the like, let my freak flag fly. I just recently took the Fuckit route. Yeah, like I have a hand tattoo. Yeah, fuck it, right? You shaved your head after graduation. But then you were like, I'm gonna wear a wig to fill more professional. No, it wasn't about feeling professional. It was about feeling ugly. It's so unprofessional to try to get a full time job. Oh, like during interviews? Yeah, exactly. What goes under what we're talking about is like, there's this pressure that like when you look to alternative, that people won't think that you're professional or educated, that you they basically just think you don't have your shit together. And you're gonna be like this rebel without a cause. Instead of a rebel with a cause to enhance the effectiveness and productivity of their company. It's just like, right away have this like judgment on you when you're actually thought. It's just like, Oh, you have too much fun. And it's just so crazy, especially in this day and age, I feel like people are getting more like companies are getting more lenient about it. But still, there's a lot of like dress codes where it's just like, that's a major No, no,

Rebel: 12:45

it just seems weird. Because it's like, why? Like, what? Who is it interrupting? Like, what work process is being halted? Because my hair is green?

Shove: 12:59

Yeah, like I get it. I guess. Like, I don't get it. But like, I kind of like, okay, maybe when it's like you deal with customers head on. Because it's like companies are like, I think it's cool. I don't care. But we know our customers are judging judging sins. So they're like, Oh, we don't want them to not come because they think it's a bunch of hooligans working here. So we'll just make it so you can't express yourself.

Rebel: 13:25

Yeah, I mean, so I worked for a job. I'm not going to drop the name of this job. But I worked for a job where I was not allowed to look in any way shape or form alternative because I had to fit a certain stereotype that people who were hiring me thought of, so I had to take out my nose rings for every time I worked, I had to wear a wig when my hair was a different color. I had to cover up all my tattoos like I wasn't allowed to wear multiple rings, which I also think is kind of a weird thing. Like why do you care? Like my jewelry? Like why do you care about my jewelry? I don't know. It's just like weird but I was working with like rich clientele. So maybe that was it. But

Shove: 14:19

I don't remember when you had they had like an alternative company that was like a sex toy companies and they're like, be alternative the love it.

Rebel: 14:27

Yeah, they were so excited. They were the first person I called. They were the I was the first person they called. They were like, Oh my gosh, this is right up your alley. Just be yourself. And I was like, already so jaded about the experience and like how I'd been treated like, I don't and I don't think that that my boss. I really really liked my boss. So it didn't have anything to do with them. It was just more or less like, I felt like I was being muted while I was at that company. Like I felt like I couldn't really express myself. And that was very frustrating to me like, why are you putting me in a box? For this job? Like I don't get it?

Shove: 15:07

Yeah, um, coffee me and tried to do that. Let's say it straight up coffee bean tea leaves sue me. I don't care. How many lawsuits have you had? I was talking about lawsuit I just I do respect that. No, I know I'm just saying separate fact. Um, when I were to coffee me and at first it was very like, good to have colored hair and it was okay because you had to wear hat. Tattoos were okay, but you couldn't have like can tattoos, neck tattoos face out to the like, very limited on like, what, like, how many where they were. And then over the years, they loosened it up a bit, but I remember like right before them even like changing it to be like any tattoos pretty much go as long as it's like, you know, not profanity or nudity and stuff. And you could have colorful hair to wear hot. But like when I was five or my interview, to become a sort manager, my regional manager was like, she came over or sorry, my district manager came over to me and she was like, okay, honey, like, I just think she's always clever with honey. She's like, okay, honey, like, I just need you to, like, tone it down a bit. Like my hair was blue at the time, I believe. And she was like, not so crazy. And it was like natural. So it was like low key like she was low, usually the lesbian lady, and she was being low key calories. As soon as she was like, your hair's just been all over the place. Like it needs to be alone with me maybe not so colorful, like, tone it down. It's just a lot. And like, that's like you need to be like for this role, like all this stuff, right? Even though like I was fitting into the dress code, technically, right? So I was like, damn, so I remember I bleached my hair, frickin blonde. I got all the blue out. I had like platinum on hair. I straightened it. And then I did like this little preppy herself. It was like, pinned at the top and then down in the back. And then I wear a blazer. That was like long sleeves, like cover my tattoos and I had like a button up underneath and a pencil skirt. And I even wore heels and I was like, who am I? Like I remember I even posted a picture and put it on Instagram, like my old Instagram, where it's like me all like punk rock and stuff. And then me like all preppy and being like what the hell like this is so weird. And everyone's just been like, This is so strange. Like, why did you have to dye your hair and do all this stuff just for it. But I like really wanted the job. So I did it. And like it was so stupid because down the line it was like very encouraged for you to look however you want it to it was literally just my district manager putting like what she thought a manager should look like on me. I've had that experience with other people who are also very close to me.

Rebel: 17:52

Today, it's just a day where I'm not saying any names. Other people that are very close to me have told me like, oh, that I have to wear pantyhose that I have to cover up my tattoos with Yeah, to cover up my leg tattoo. So they don't like show under. Like if I was like move my leg a certain way that I asked to use like makeup or concealer to cover up any like tattoos that might peek out or anything. Just like really weird stuff that like I just don't like trying to be a teacher. Like I don't really see why. It's like a big deal for a teacher to have tattoos

Shove: 18:33

or your mentor now, they're gonna want to get tattoos and crazy hair because their teacher did.

Rebel: 18:39

But like, Thank God, that a teacher would be an example of someone who's always maybe wanted to look alternative. And they've never seen a leader in their life that actually looked alternative, thank God that that student's going to have that teacher. Like, that's how you should see it, instead of seeing it as like, Oh no, they're going to influence it. It's like maybe there was a student who really needed someone to give them the permission, you know, by by setting an example of like, you don't have to look like literally everyone else in order to do what you want to do or be who you want to be. And so I don't know, like it's but I definitely bought into it. Like I would I had this like Karen wig that I wore, it was like a blonde Bob that I would wear anytime that I had any sort of interview or anything like that and would even wear it like the first day in the classroom to make like an impression and like all this stuff, and it's like, what the

Shove: 19:43

hell? Well, one cool thing though, is like people have to start change unit because they can't find employees that aren't heavily tattooed or have alternative Arab because like knowledge generations coming in like they're like I've had tattoos and stuff I was 15. And like, they're really like pierced up and everything. I'm very like, raised by millennials. So that are like expressing yourself. Like, yeah, the culture is changing and even Disneyland had to change their dress code. And like they were one of the strictest places like because they were trying to make sure like that every culture from around the world that comes Disneyland wouldn't be offended, because it is a cultural thing to wear. Like some people think it's like, you're definitely 100% like a drug dealer or getting serviette tattoos. So to keep it just very like blank, they're like, you can only have natural hair color tones down to the kind of makeup you have on the nail polish color. Any tattoos have to be covered with makeup. Like they're very, very strict. And now they're starting to loosen it up a bit. So you might see someone with like old tattoo, or you might see someone a little while choda and you definitely would never see that at Disneyland again. But if they like upheld that they wouldn't have no one to work. Yeah, no, because it's Yeah, yeah. 100% I totally agree with what you're saying. Yeah, and now it's like, I ain't gal before it was like, oh, man, there's so punk rocker. Oh, man. Yeah, they're definitely thinking sir criminal or like all these things like whatever it might be. And now it's like, almost like to be honest, when was cooler if you don't have tattoos? It just looks blank. Now, it's just like, the new norm is like, Oh, of course, like, like, Oh, of course you have tattoos or you have colorful hair. It's like not, I feel like me, unless I'm just so like, included because of like skate community and other communities. I'm sure. But like, especially being in California, like, almost everyone's alternative. So it's like, I mean, like, you know what, that is totally our bubble. Yeah, it's our bubble. Yeah, that's not real, because I teach a bunch of students in Orange County. And like,

Rebel: 21:55

right, like, I have like, maybe two. That's like, kind of alternate me. But like, I mean, like, that's not I think LA is our bubble. Right? Long Beach is our bubble. Yeah. And la Long Beach are very different from like, other parts of the United States, different other parts of the world. Like, I think that we have, like a culture here. And also, I think we are very without even intending to, we're just like, very immersed in both gay culture and skate culture. And which is fine. Like, I prefer it that way. But both of those cultures are very like, DIY, they're more alternative. They're more like self expression. Yeah. And like, if you don't like who I am, then fuck you. That's very much how the cultures are. And so we're just like used to that. But not everyone is like that. Unfortunately, I

Shove: 22:52

know that's true, extra F and never really realize it until you go to middle of nowhere and you look around, you're like, Oh, why is everyone saying that? Me like that?

Rebel: 23:01

Honestly, I don't even realize that I'm extra until I think it's made it. I mean, we've definitely talked about this on the podcast before, but it's made it so much worse, like being at home all the time. Because like, I'll just go out even with people that I know. And then I'll be like, Oh, I'm like super dressed up.

Shove: 23:20

And you're not we're annoying This is why people hate us. I definitely don't think there's like as much taboo about getting tattooed. Like more people are willing especially to hide them. I definitely think feel like the placement of tattoos like more people are getting tattoos where other people can scam and less tattoos that are are hidden because it almost is more of like an accessory or a work of art they want the world to see rather than something that's just personal to them. And I think like back in the day, because there was like, Oh, I can knock it any kind of job like even like a minimum wage job with tattoos. So it was like you kept everything that was just underneath and it was like oh, this is just for me anyways because I want it and now as things are opening up it is more of a oh wait. Tattoos can be just an art form that I'm sharing with the world and like all just get like, sleeves. chsp isn't like something or it's like weird. It's like the opposite of what it was before when it was like, oh, gotta be a secret like a hush hush.

Rebel: 24:22

I also think that and again, this could also be our bubble, but like, I know on my social medias, it's like all the sexy people have tattoos.

Shove: 24:34

Like I feel like all the hot lesbians like I feel like they all have tattoos. I feel like all the hot buys like all the high gays all the hot Claire's like, Mike. Oh, you all have tattoos. So I don't know if the camera caught it. But I yawned and that thing happened where like the corner like where your jaw is squirts out. Water. Again sprays bleeded Yeah, that's what it's called. And I think it's like I got so mad cuz I saw it being that you could like train, like do it yourself and I couldn't figure it out and I was so mad. Because I think it's one of those things that's just like so freakin weird when it happens. But how cool would it be to do it on command? I had a friend growing up could do it from under their tongue. Yeah. And I was like, What the crap? Like miracles of the buckimion body. But anyway, it is magic. It just happened. And if you witness it, you're welcome.

Rebel: 25:32

Anyways, so what made you like, did you ever have a moment where you were like, oh shit, I shouldn't have gotten all these tattoos and had like colored hair? No, no,

Shove: 25:46

no, never once. I've always been kind of like, it'd be my own job, like, just do what I want as long as like, I can like if I like I remember working at Hyde Park casino and being like, I had blond hair and like, horrible, bleached, like blonde blonde hair, but I didn't understand what toners were at the time. So it's kind of like yellowy blonde white patches. And it was like totally breaking but it was in my clip in sage cuz I was like, I'm still like MySpace going into Tumblr seeing clean. So like, I had these super long platinum blonde pieces, like 22 inch, 18 inch, 20 inch, like, I tease it up. I was like, I'm so seen. And I would go to work like that. And then like, after, like a month or so one of the supervisors came up and was like, oh, you know, it's in the dress code that you have like natural hair color. And I was like, well, like blonde is a natural hair color. And then he's like, not far people. And I looked at the other. I looked at the other old lady. And the other lady, the old lady that worked there. And it was Linda and she had like yellowy blonde hair. And that was like her thing. And she teased it out really big like, oh my hair. And I was like she has blonde hair. And she's like, Yeah, but it's not blonde blonde like yours because like mine was just too extra, right? So then I was like, All right, I was like, Alright, cool. So my asshole asked us decides to dye my hair Sonic the Hedgehog blue, along with all of my pieces, my clip ends, and I made my hair super obnoxious Lee seeing queen, I went on my rip t shirt on heavy like raccoon mess, like mascara and like eyeshadow. And I went in the next day because it's my day off and I went to get to my check. And I'm just like, walk in and my supervisor looks at me like, What the fuck? I'm just like, Hi, can I get my check at cash that little window? I walk around and talk to her like, like coworkers and stuff. And then I apparently, yes, out there. And then the next day, because of course I'm not going to lose my job over that. But like, as soon as I'm with me dye my hair. I'm like, You know what, I should dye my hair something fun, because I figured I'm not going to dye it black or brown, right. So I thought being by being obnoxious li blonde, that was my way to express myself. I thought alternative but was it a crazy color. So I thought so I went to a swap meet and got like this wig. It was my first wig I ever got, ah, that's what started it all. And it was super preppy. It was like a brunette and was long and curly. And I did a little up doing and then I put my uniform on and go to work. I'm sitting in the deli, and all sudden the heck of the supervisor like power walking at me with a radio. And then she goes, Huh. And I was like what she saw. She told me you had bright blue hair. And you told me to come over here and tell you that he told you not to dye your hair, blah, blah so that I needed to come over here and see if you had blue hair so I could let him know so you could write you up. Well, you can tell Keith that I know what a wig is and that my hair is my hair and I'll keep it whatever color I want. Sheila's love. Oh my god. Keith looked like if Katt Williams and Prince had a baby. Oh, yeah. And he was very short. I think that short man's complex and yeah, he was always a pain and my artists and I remember I even had like drawings of me like my sketchbook I was like, describing him like I just got so triggered that you know, autumn, but yeah, that was like my first like I use he also was one of those bosses that like I got a review and my dad was like heading the department but he wasn't even my boss. He was just in the same department. Like he was like, you were going to get 100 on your way. Have you but I took you to 98 because your chef sheils, his daughter, and I thought it wouldn't be fair. And I was like, one who else would know what my score is? And to like, you deducted me, please, just because you were afraid of what people thought that was another strike. But yeah, anyway, so that's about Keith. That was the one time I was like, I'm gonna be kind of a rebel, but not really.

Rebel: 30:26

I mean, I feel like I just decided one day, like, I'm fed up with this. It was years and years of me feeling like, I wanted to do things like I wanted to get more tattoos, I wanted to dye my hair, I wanted to cut my hair, I want to get all these piercings, I felt like I couldn't. And then one day, I just snapped. Like, I was just like, I will no longer take any jobs that say that I can't be myself completely and entirely, like, I want to feel free to not have any piercings in. And I want to feel completely free to have all my piercings and have my hair wild. And then also to have, you know, tattoos. And it was like this big thing too, because I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm never gonna get hired as a full time teacher. If I like look super alternative. And because the field is so competitive, they can afford to like, not judge on that. But like, judge on that, you know, I mean, so I just decided, like, fuck it. Like, I'm never gonna get this teaching job anyways, so I may as well just like, do what I want. And so now I do what I want.

Shove: 31:38

Yeah, and I got a hand tattoo because book it. And it's the happiest tattoo. I fucking love it. It makes me feel so good about myself. Every time I see it, like Hell yeah, my hand is sexy. And I pretend I don't see it. I love it. If you haven't seen it, and you're watching it is a flower on my hand. And I love it. And I'm going to get more hand tattoos. Because i How many hands do you have been? No, I'm going to get finger tattoos. You knew that? We talked about that. Yeah, you have finger tattoos. You can't be like don't get fingered one that you can't even see who's ringing the other one is like the teeniest tiniest thing that people don't even know. It's all right. And like I'm not judging. It's just Ravel gets like, you don't think it's hot and I'm not gonna do it. I'm like, so just because I don't I'm not attracted to it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. It's your body and she's like, I want you to be attracted to me. And I'm like, but that shouldn't stop you. Like, do you boo me whatever makes you happy? I support you.

Unknown: 32:41

Yeah

Shove: 32:48

I still want you to think I'm cute though. You're cute. Even this hand put on my glove. Anyways, let's do you have anything else to say about the real world? No, I hate the real world. I'd rather live in fantasy land. Alright then let's go to the real world the will world is where we talk about all things roller ski. Yeah. And shove went on a really cool roller skating trip this last weekend. Where did you go, babe and tell us about it. two weekends ago? Oh, whoa. Feels like it was this last weekend? Yeah, so like two weeks ago, I went to my Ammy the one in Florida Of course. So I went to Florida and it's so funny because side. No, I see you on Reddit, that you also listen to this podcast and you're like, shoves and she didn't want to go to Miami and they made her No no, no, I was saying I didn't want to go to Florida because you know all the Republicans and guns and like the COVID czar real of the like majority not everyone out there and but yeah, so go ahead and misquote me on my podcast. That's okay. But I had so much fun. I don't like I will before trips I get very like oh and it's because I'm anxious about like flying and going to places I don't really know what's going on. Do you not know me? Obviously if you're on this episode, you should know me by now. But anyways, keep keep posting on Reddit and pretending like the people you talk about aren't like literally really not it because we're also rollerskating I think it's so funny. I've called y'all out on this before but it's okay. Right? It is a beautiful trash fire and if it helps you it helps you but if you're on there, it'd be like this is tablets You might need a better hobby, and you can quote me on that and put it in the Reddit. But anyways, love you. Let's jump right into our Miami trip. So the Miami trip was this awesome thing with this new company called Lazo that is a sister company for Moxie. And we just want to help, like, bring the stock of skating to everyone. And it's really funny because people are just like, what is it? I'm like, I don't know. It's like fun skate stuff. Like, who cares? Like, everyone takes things so seriously. But it was really, like really cool. The point of this trip was to like, see how the other side of the country skates and like, what their community is like. And I think that's one of the coolest thing. And what I really want to travel with my skates is the meet people because in the internet, we can just be like keyboard, lawyers with no keyboard warriors, or like, we're really shy, or we can be like, super friendly. And then we're like the opposite in person. And it's because the internet's just not real. It's just whatever we want, like people to see. Or not see. And in person, you really get to know those people and then find out like, Oh, crap, like, I thought you're one thing. But here's something else. Like I thought we didn't really get along online. But then in person, like you're my new bestie. I don't know all these skate deeds with you. So like, it's cool to have internet friends. But like, when you meet skaters in person, you're just like, wow, like, I am vibing, the whole vibe school. And that was Miami, like Miami skaters are so dope. And they were all from Miami. A lot of people were like two hours, four hours away, and they drove him. So that was cool. But yeah, it was a long weekend of skating. It was really draining. But it was draining because it was so rewarding that like, I was just like, oh my god, I'm an introvert. I can't do this anymore.

Rebel: 36:52

Yeah, I mean, even you were telling us about your you're telling me about like the different things you did. And I was like, Holy crap. You did so many things in one day. That's insane. I'm tired. Just listening to you talk about it.

Shove: 37:06

Yeah, when we had a, there was a rollout. And I can't believe finding out that the whole rollout was like 20 something miles, which Long Beach would never beach would lead to the LA Marathon but happens once a year. Before I want I showed up to the meetup spot, which I almost didn't make it to because my anxiety was so high. I got there. And I sat to the side and there was this beautiful like our installation and they had like the sound of like water. And it was like bubbles. And it was be like if you weren't like in a, I don't know, fishing or something. And I was like, Okay, I'll just sit here. Aside from the like, skaters are starting to show up and like, you know, do my little meditation, my little breathing exercises, calm down a little bit. But I kept spinning out. And then like, a show popped up and was like, are you okay? And you know how, like, when you're like, not okay, and someone asks you, you're okay, I was full on started crying. And I was like, I am not okay, I don't know what's going on. And they were like, you don't have to be here. Like, if you want to go back to Airbnb, you can if you want to go to our friend's hotel, like, I can let him know, like, you don't have to do this. And I was like, I know, I just like want to try like, it sounds really fun. Like, I just want to give it a go. But like, I definitely did not feel right in my body. So I ended up like skating though because I was like talking to people the more I talk to people and I was like, pulled me out of it. And I was like, Alright, I got this and there was like some skaters and it was just like, oh my god like it's rebel here and I was like she's not a wish but like so people were asking about her and it was not an easy skate from the get go like the streets were kind of smooth but then it was like this brick road. Like not even just like just a little bit like a full freaking sounds terrible. And I went nope, like literally my pedals were like a lucid they're just like huh and then like I literally must have disassociated because all sudden everyone's got cars coming in and I was just like, I'm like on this weird side of a brick brick road but in the divider, the center divider. Oh weird. And then cars are going but luckily there's traffic and I was just like this part so I think that a politician what and I'm not gonna say it was Andrew Yang, because he looked younger than Andrew Yang but this will look like Andrew Yang. Hahaha so I am like setting and then I'm like you got this like what would tell you to do I should tell you just go. You just got to do blah blah. And you can't do it like, you know in your mindset spinning out then all of a sudden, like I hear, like opens windows. This is like classy black card. And it's just like a very attractive like, cheesy smile like Asian man and like a nice suit. And like white shirt and a tie right? This is so funny, but like, Hey, I got news for you. And I thought I Here we go, it's gonna be some fucking fat phobic or pervert pervert stuff, right? He says, Here, the best person, best dressed person I've seen all day. And he's all welcome. And he just like puts the window. Like that was random. So they go and then I'm like, okay to do that I love. So I skate super fast, super fast. And then I'm like, hit up to this hill, which is also brick. And I'm like, doing what? Brick now going uphill on this rough terrain. And I'm like, I don't know what really went there's like one thing that goes downhill. There's one that goes up. It looks like a bridge, but it's dark outside, because it's a nightscape and then it looks like there might also be some sort of club there because now it's forming a line of bougie rich people that are very well dressed because are also and I'm like I'm in on Sky Blue. Obviously romper with Sky Blue braids and roller skates. I'm on my phones at 9% I don't know where anyone is not an ideal. Yeah, so that was like see you have some options. You could just Bell you could try to get a Uber or you could just sit here and try to figure it out. Sometimes I'll just sit down and the lines getting longer and longer. And I'm like this is getting awkward. People are staring at me. And then all sudden they hear I found my masterpiece. Look up Asian guy know this guy has an American flag pin on his makes me politician no one else wears an American flag on their freakin jacket. And you had that smile all politicians have doesn't matter what their background is what ethnicity politicians all have that same smile and sparkle in their eye. And that's how they get voted for. They have a look. Unless we're not even gonna say his name. He wasn't even a real politician. But he was voted in to be one and that was trash. Not a sparkling nigh not a good smile. Anyway. This of me was like, he's like, Oh, I got good knees. I like this might be weird. But do you mind? Can I take a picture with you? I would love to take a picture with you like you are literally the most fascinating person I've seen like You're like you have your style is just so unique. And I was like, Yeah, sure. And we took like a picture together. And this like woman I was with him like, like had her like little Hillary Clinton like outfit. Like took the picture. So I swear to God, there's some random picture of me out there with some random politician existing. That's what I've built up my reality. But that was like one of the biggest things I forgot to tell you. That happened out there. And then I took an Uber back to Airbnb. I can't believe you forgot. That's like a big important news. Yeah, it was like one of the campaign issues knows the people he found a fat flat queer tattoo person enrollers kids and their friends see how inclusive he is but for him Yes. shoves vote. He should have yours. I don't know let's say to cool I'd vote for him and I don't even know he sounds were lay boys. Miami vibe as this plays. Was it my favorite? It was beautiful. And there was art everywhere. And I felt like if I would have not had just back to back skating and stuff like and work stuff to do. I would have fully enjoyed it. But it felt also the dark side was like especially like Miami Beach heart was like I don't do well around rich people. And like especially like born into money rich people. Yeah, they have definitely a different vibe. Yeah, so like ritzy hotels, Ferraris everywhere. Like, literally people just being so fucking rude and entitled and not moving out of the way and just like oh, so annoying. The people drive crazy out there. But I still skated in the streets terrifying. Yeah, but oh, well terrifying. But it was like being a video game. Roller skate community. I feel like they have more opportunities to gather together I heard a lot of skaters say like, man, we need to do this like more often like we're never all in one spot. We never meet up at the same time. So like I'm hoping that if we left something behind it's that more of the skaters are gonna want to host their own meetups together to have Things was like, yeah because we went like to outdoor roller rink where they were doing like a fundraiser and then we went to do a skate clinic. A lot of love in and a lot of love into the drop in we went to a lot 11 And skated that is hated the mini over there. Went to orange pills to watch like the street skaters do their thing. I know T stocks went to another wrinkle, indoor rink like an hour away. We did a streetscape. And like the morning one day, it was just like so much. So many it was back to back to back and like every skater I met was just like so down to earth. So awesome. Shout out to I can't remember your name, but give me a shot of whiskey and that's I know we were soul mates because you were like, How'd you know? Jameson? Just you just knew I tried a coca for the first time. Amazing. I mean, cookie dough. No, it was like Kolkata. It was like a little. It looks like a mozzarella stick. But it's like chubbier. Yeah. And then we went to like a straw. Cheyenne. Well, like human restaurant the last night and the food was so good. But yeah, everything was super awesome and made me really want to like travel other places, which I know I've said before, but like giving actually, it was just like reinforcement. And like being like, must travel. I'm so jealous. I want to travel so bad. Also, there were a lot of jellyfish in the water. Well, then fuck that. I don't want to trap but I didn't get stung. And it was worth it. Nice. Watching her. Yeah, on the manmade beaches, because apparently a lot of the most of the beaches in Florida aren't real. That's hilarious. Still beautiful, though. So when it comes to traveling, like where do you travel to? I want to go to Ireland. Okay, what about like in the state, I also want to go to Amsterdam. No, in the States.

Rebel: 46:59

I want to go to St. Louis. I want to go skating in that skate park church. And I want to go to Chicago. And I want to go to all the skate parks in Colorado. And I want to go to the rinks in Atlanta. And I want to go to the rinks in Ohio. And I want to go to the rinks in

Shove: 47:28

Texas if you go to cascade. I've been to a cascade before. And what happened you I just skated they let you skate? You weren't where you were that nighttime? Yeah, it was there at nighttime. It was hacked. No one knocked you over anything? No, because I'm still good skater. Like I wasn't. I wasn't trying to like, own the space. I was literally just skating. Oh, I know. I

Rebel: 47:51

just heard some horror stories. Like, no, yeah. I was only there for like an hour. And it was early night time. Like it was probably like nine. You know, like, it wasn't like the late late time. But yeah, I went by myself, I think actually, because I was like, I'm here. I was there for a tournament. Oh, and it was when I first it wasn't like I wasn't super into ranks or anything like that yet. So I didn't know. I didn't know where I was. I did not understand. And I want to go back because I had I had no risk. Not that I didn't respect the place that I was at. But I didn't have any sense of like, the history that was there. I just was like, This is awesome. It wasn't like, this is

Shove: 48:42

awesome. Yeah. I would like not even bring my skates. I would just sit there and watch. I bet I'm here to watch.

Rebel: 48:49

Yeah, well, I wasn't. It wasn't like, I mean, there were people in the middle. But it was so packed. Like, it was so packed. That it was only like just a little bit of skating. And like, that was all you could really do. It was the most packed drink I've ever like. Walk. Yeah, but I didn't know what that was at the time. It was probably like my, maybe my third rink that I had been to. I started skating so it was like, very an charted territory for me, so I was just like, This is great. Like,

Shove: 49:24

I want to go to Chicago to skate with Jessica catastrophe and goalie. And um, yes, we're gonna Arizona. Yeah. Welcome back, Heather. Yeah, bother Heather. I'm definitely not in the summer. And yeah, I know a lot of people in Texas or Texas Well, Texas bluntness ago, and like I have mixed feelings because I think I have a lot of people as I have. I want to skated the bear Bay Area. really badly. Yeah.

Rebel: 50:02

But yeah, because when we went up there is when I got all fucked up. And that's why we didn't really get to do the whole skating thing. Oh my god, I really want to have we're actually we're planning to have a Skate Adventure in Vegas. I really want to do a Skate Adventure in Vegas. That's gonna happen for sure.

Shove: 50:18

Yeah, we've always made the mistake of going to Vegas when it's way too hot. So it's like, we never make the skate parks for sure.

Rebel: 50:25

So now we're gonna. And then yeah, I just there's so many places I really want to go to Portland. I just I traveling is my life. And I literally haven't traveled. And I just feel like a big chunk of me is missing. And I know that sounds kind of wild, but like, I know I got a plane before you. Yeah, and it's just like I've had a couple opportunities but I've been doing other jobs or whatever. So I just haven't really had the actual opportunity to travel so I'm really miss it. Even if it's for like a frickin like tournament, like for one weekend like,

Shove: 51:07

I just want to go somewhere. Well, we're going to Bali next summer.

Rebel: 51:11

Yeah, but that's too long. Like I need to I forget. I keep forgetting to we need to buy tickets. But I need to get like I need to go travel this next month. Like that's how I need to. I must. For the sake of my sanity. January must involve travel for

Shove: 51:32

oh, Lord, what's next? Let's get out of here. It's fine. Your skate day and your skate t we actually got one.

Rebel: 51:53

Yeah. Find your skate date is where you send in your bio. Your little info about you where you're located your pronouns little pic. And then we talk about you. And we tell you, we tell all the people about how great you are and then you find a skate date.

Shove: 52:13

Oh my god, we actually get to be independent for once and I'm miserable lives. You know why? Because it starts off dear shove and rebel. Wait, what? Amazing shovels dead. Deer shovin Rebel. My name is Abby and I am a Boston skater and my pronouns are they them? Sub Abby, winter is coming in Boston. Sorry Game of Thrones. Winter is coming in Boston and I want to connect with other people skating for their serotonin. I would love to connect to other Boston skaters in real life and with other cold weather skaters virtually. I am also an artist and love the artist slash skater crossover. My IG is at lavender, underscore menace underscore press. If you are interested, my cat's IG Ooh is I am the great Norma Desmond. Thank you. She's not a skater. But she loves nagging. Not snuggling noggin skaters. I like to snug Grebel I love it when you snug me. Well, bosses skaters about you're out there. We know you're out there. Boston skaters? Yo Paisley need to go skate. Yeah, um, there definitely is a CIB chapter out there. So there's definitely skaters there. Yeah, so if you're listening, Bostonians but it's it's your time. Bostonians, Bostonians people, people of Boston Boston knights. Austin Bostonians? Yeah, that please hit up. Avi. They sound awesome. Yeah, give him a follow chatted up. Winter is coming and then this garage is in the here and now.

Rebel: 54:18

If you want us to read your deer skate day and talk about you just send an email to deer skate date@gmail.com and we will read your bio and talk about you and find your escape date. Let's move on to do your shovel

Shove: 54:47

What's your shovel their shovel is an unfortunate place or unfortunate souls right in bewildered and lost looking for wisdom Yeah. They obviously took a wrong turn and got even more. Because they say that shovel Do we have a home? Yes, indeed. In our best way. Yeah, that's right. Let's see what we can do. Dear shovel. Most of the skate places are open after eight. But I am a morning person. Help. You're a morning person who's a morning person. I wish I was a morning. Your first problem is here in the morning, you know, they are the golden standard. I wish I could I cannot I literally I struggle so hard. I always want to be a morning person. But I also love staying up super late doing absolutely nothing. And except like Andre and my feet. I feel the most productive that I ever feel like hella late at night. Like, I am always late that just like happened. No, I

Rebel: 56:06

learned why. Why? It's because of something that has to do with ADHD. So because all day long, I feel like like there are different I want to say triggers. But that's not the correct wording, like different flags that are like grabbing my attention right there like different attention demanding requirements, like TAS text, emails, people who are awake expecting you to do things, whether it be personal, social, or like work based. But in the middle of the night, everyone expects that you're sleeping. So there's nothing like telling you to do anything else. Like, the only thing that's telling you to do anything is your body being like you should be sleeping. But other than that, it's like nothing. So it's like your body is free. It's like the only time when I feel free to literally do whatever I want to do. Mm hmm. It's amazing. But then I end up not sleeping. So it's not amazing. But that's okay. Anyways,

Shove: 57:19

we're off topic. We didn't answer the question. Okay, so um, I don't know, like, is it too late? Like, what time do you go to bed is when I'm waiting? That's got to be I think that eight is too late. Because I think they want to skate in the morning. I think I mean, you live somewhere where you can't skate like at a tennis court or anything. Because sometimes, you know, you just bring it on speaker and have your own party.

Rebel: 57:44

Yeah, I think that it's time for you to DIY some places. So check out tennis courts. And it's also hard because we don't know what kind of skating you like to do. Like, I don't know, if you're a skate park person, or like a rink, kind of a person or cruising kind of a person. But cruising definitely like doing a riverbed trail, or like, skating in like a pretty location or even like, in a neighborhood I feel like is actually really cool hella early in the morning because no one's around. And I feel like you actually have access to lots of different locations. So I think if you haven't started branching out into just like, pretty locations, you should start doing that, like find some pretty locations and go there.

Shove: 58:27

Yeah, cuz I don't like Greeks. Because they make sense. I guess, if you're like, I want to like work on my dance moves with other people. But like, if you're not into dancing, it's boring. And I'm sorry, I'm just gonna say it. How many times you just get my circle? How many times? How many times when they do games, I'm like, Alright, cool. There's something to do now. But for me, I always think like, this is gonna be fine. And then by like, the third turn, I'm like, hmm. So I want to see the world. Like, I want to be out there. I want to feel the wind on my face. I want to like, be like, Oops, I was not looking at the sky. Like, look at that car. Look at that person like that another roller skater. And I feel like, I don't get any kind of serotonin from being at the rink. That loss over the first 20 minutes.

Rebel: 59:18

Yeah, it's definitely crazy. Because whenever I'm at the rink, it's like, I'm not even concentrated on the fact that I'm going in a circle because I'm so concentrated on like, what I'm trying to learn how to do like every single time I'm at the rink, I have something that I'm like, working on. Yeah, that I'm focusing on and so I'm not even thinking about the fact that I'm going to circle I'm just thinking like, Okay, can I get this 360 Can I get this Yeah, but if you're not like but if you're not interested in that are

Shove: 59:47

the people you see are just skating a circle. Are you sure that they're not like in their head like working on something? They're skating in a circle? Oh, I was imagined everyone was like work. Oh, trust me because I'm trying to go fast. because then I'm like, Oh, I'll work on like, you know, Jukin and just like finding holes and going fast, and I'm like, everyone's skating slow going, and and I'm doing it. Because if I was just trying to like skate to skate again, I would want to do that outside. It's not always just like people that are like in rental skates. Like, it's like, that would totally be it like, oh, I That's my only chance to learn that on my own skates. It'll be people that have their own skates. But I'm just saying like, I know, there's that fear of like, being a concrete surfer because it's like, oh, the floors.

Rebel: 1:00:36

Yeah, I was gonna say the rank is is safe. It's a safe space to like, begin learning how to skate because there's not like unexpected cracks or unexpected rocks.

Shove: 1:00:47

I know. Where people have broken things in a rink then have broken it. Like just skating? Yeah, I'm not saying that. It's actually safer. I'm saying that the perception is that it's safer. Because there's not any of those like, Yeah, I'm just saying it for the people. Because I think about it, I bet on you're like, Oh, I'm going somewhere outside and you put full gear on. But then you go to the rink and you're not wearing any gear. And it's like we have this weird thing of like, oh, it's polished softwood and flat and it's like it's like this weird illusion thing of like, what's safe and what isn't, but it's all kind of the same thing. Sometimes the ring can be more scary because there's like kids just starting or stopping or falling, like out of nowhere. Yep. dragging you down. But yeah, there's so you can kind of create your own rink they do it like in Venice all the time. They do it in parts of Long Beach, like in some tennis courts, like bringing the right music, the right friends, and you can just have a good time, like tennis courts usually are pretty smooth. But I know not everyone has access to him. I would if I had more information. If this was a longer question. I could give better advice. So I'm just rambling off some things. Yeah. If I were really mad at me after this episode, first I just read it. Then I was like, I want to like bring some board.

Rebel: 1:02:10

Well, like, you know, like, not everyone likes rinks. And not everyone likes skate parks. And not everyone likes trail skating. It's just like a personal preference thing. And one of them is not better than the other. And

Shove: 1:02:22

oh my god, I want to do a trial ski and like Portland, like an Oregon or something like I want. Like, who is it? It's there's a skier who also does hair. She's friends with live she lives like in Oregon, maybe Portland. And like, there's this trail. It's like a nature trail. And it just looks so pretty, especially in the fall. That sounds amazing. And like just say idea of like skating and that kind of nature. Because we don't have that here in California. I'm always jealous. Like when I see people in like the Midwest, or like, yeah, and it's just like, or the Northwest. So it's just like so beautiful. That's I think when I hear Charles skating, that's what I would want to do. Because for us, we're like trail skating and stuff. We're gonna LA River, which isn't even a roll with it. River. It's a freaking canal. We're like, I'm Trotsky.

Rebel: 1:03:14

Yeah. Free really pretty places at like, I think actually in Florida where a couple of really, really? Oh, yeah, they skated especially like their colleges there, which is where I'm working when I travel is like, just so beautiful. And like you can skate around the campus. And well, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to. But like you, you can skate around the canvas. And then, like, skater that doesn't like, it's so beautiful and stunning and everything like that. But yeah, so I mean, I guess if you're a morning person. I'm not saying if you're a skate park skater to break into skate parks, but I know a lot of people do. And I would say more than anything, DIY your ski experience. Alright, well, that about wraps up our podcast for today. It's around. We love you very much. Thank you for listening. We've got one more episode after this for the year before we take our little two week break. And we're going to sit together and kind of brainstorm ways that we can be better be better as a podcast and also just like tie in some ideas that y'all have brought to the table. I've been asking for some ideas on the on the skate Instagram and we've obviously thought of some ideas. So we're gonna work on a new strategy moving forward for like how we want to continue to three, crazy and then yeah, so if you like us, you want us to continue or you have some ideas. We would love to hear your ideas. If you want to email us you can it's skate date podcast@gmail.com Um, if you want to rate our podcasts on any of the podcast apps that you have, we would definitely appreciate that. If you want to go on YouTube,

Shove: 1:05:13

you could subscribe. You could like and comment and share our podcast there. Oh my gosh, how many more things are on here? Well,

Rebel: 1:05:23

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Shove: 1:05:41

Cool. Okay, we love you all. Sorry. This was like random we're really weird. So if you made it this far, you in you weird like us and we like you're weird you like are weird and let's be wearing together forever. And we'll see you next Wednesday. Bye, everybody.