Episode 2.33: Hi, our name is Shovel and we are shopaholics

In season 2 episode 33 of Skate Date we talk about being shopaholics, where that tendency came from and what it is about shopping that makes us feel so good. In the Wheel World we discuss how our bodies are reacting to going back to derby (hint, we are not doing great) and then we have a question in Dear Shovel about partners who don't roller skate.
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Shove: 0:08

everyone welcome to skate D

Rebel: 0:10

What's up everybody? Welcome to skate D skate day in our living room instead of in the garage. Why are we doing in the living room because it's really windy is really really windy. So our garage is really loud when it's windy because the wind just bangs against the door and also, we have a bunch of things like in rafters and so we're also genuinely concerned that we're gonna die every time it's windy and we're out there so we decided that we would still bring you an episode escape date, but it would be slightly different because the background is different and the audio is obviously a little different for you people listening on the streaming services,

Shove: 0:52

she decided I did

Rebel: 0:55

decide because I put our safety above putting out

Shove: 1:00

this still have an episode he decided I wanted to be like, Oh no, it's windy and scary. Let's just cuddle and do nothing. And she's like so what do you want to talk about on skate day and I was on cuddled up with Beau he chillin like a villain. And now I'm here.

Rebel: 1:16

You're literally two feet from where you were

Shove: 1:19

before. We're comfortable over there. And I wasn't talking I was on tik tok just like mindlessly going to her even though she's right there.

Rebel: 1:29

Yeah, good times. And boy, it wasn't much like what he's doing right now.

Shove: 1:35

So that's why I pulled him up here because he must been in two girls one pup anyways, good day is a podcast brought to you by two roller skaters that are sort of in love. And yeah, we talk about what's in the real world in the real world. I'm sure I'm rebel together. Where shovel? Can you dig it by hand?

Rebel: 1:56

I can too. Can you? Yes, yes.

Shove: 2:01

The average he always mean we are snuggled on the couch with Bobo in the middle.

Rebel: 2:07

We've got an audience going. We've got some candles over there. My altar is lit up. And we just had dinner so we're nice and tummy fall come

Shove: 2:19

clean.

Rebel: 2:23

We'll get to that. And then we'll world so today we're going to talk about I forgot that we chose to DACA we're talking about shopping,

Shove: 2:35

shopping, shopping addiction

Rebel: 2:37

and being a shopaholic. That is what we're talking about today. And then we're going to talk about restarting Derby and all the pains that our bodies are going through right now. Growing beans, yes. So um, what did you do this last week baby?

Shove: 2:57

I don't remember I filmed for you.

Rebel: 3:00

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we started a couple of really dope videos. We're starting a new series on my YouTube channel if you're lucky, that's gonna be really exciting that I'm not going to tell you about yet because it's a secret. And I think my big accomplishment for this last week was that I got I made a string of ghosties so I made a go see garland?

Shove: 3:28

Watching scary movies every night except for tonight we will

Rebel: 3:36

find because it's super unrealistic to literally watch a movie every say did last year. Well, we also already missed a day because one of the nights we watch Walking Dead. That counts. I don't know that that counts. Okay, He's scary. Zombie. Zombie news.

Shove: 3:56

All right, so So before we jump in it's a fake good. Nope. It's a real fake business.

Rebel: 4:06

No, it's a real ad. It's a fake ad for a real business. No, it's a real ad for real business. I think your campaign has been okay whatever so it's for what shot baby

Shove: 4:20

tears for queries

Rebel: 4:21

No.

Shove: 4:24

Mirrors for queries. No. dears Berkeley's No. Cheers for quit kinda cheers to.

Rebel: 4:35

That's it. Cheers to the queers.com It's my website and little shop and I just wanted to tell you all that I just restocked like, actually Okay, I restocked those super cute heart sunglasses that you love him, but I just got a bunch of new stuff in it. have been ordering and making and dreaming Mel heart out and finally everything is almost ready. We have one more thing that's going to drop like coming up soon but besides that there are new earrings there's cherry earrings. There's magic eight ball bracelets. There's moon earrings. Those are your favorite right? There's laces and their socks there's pride socks rainbow socks. And it really is a full one stop shop and very very soon there will be reverse tiny sweatshirt. But yeah, so if you are a person who enjoys treating themselves and is a shopaholic like us, then we're free to be a shopaholic or uncover from my shop cheers liquid COMM And if you're like, Oh my gosh, the holidays are coming up. I need to get a bunch of stuff. And like there's skaters in my life or even their non skaters and I just like cute stuff, people in my life, then here's the first shop is where you should shop. Because that would be really great. Thumbs up. Oh my gosh, there used to be this thing, this game that we will play at camp. And it was like No, no, no, it wasn't thumbs up seven up, although that is also a fun game. But it was like a song and be like, done and then and then and then and then and then it'd be like, thumbs up and then they'd sing it again. And then you had your thumbs up and then it'd be like, thumbs up, elbows that and then it was like, thumbs up, elbows out, shoulders back head tilt. And he'd like sing it. And he like kept doing all these things. Anyways, that's what that room Yeah. But just choose the course shot. So I don't feel sad. Yeah,

Shove: 7:07

yeah.

Rebel: 7:07

Okay. Shall we jump into the real world? Boy, he is so loud right now. Okay, He's here. He's just I'm happy to be here. He has his nice little rainbow color today on because it's National Coming Out Day. And he wants you to know that he's, he's gay.

Shove: 7:56

Okay, let's get back on

Rebel: 7:57

track. Okay, so in the real world, we're talking about shopping and being shopaholics and having a shopping addiction. Yes. So raise your hand if you are shopaholic.

Shove: 8:15

Only rebels raising her hand right now. No, you definitely should be raising though a racist Hill. Well, he would vote does not

Rebel: 8:23

have a Telly as a note for a deal. Here. Is that are you going to raise your hand? No, we're gonna raise your hand for you because you're definitely also shopaholic. Oh really? Not Okay, well she is so don't listen to her. So how do you know I first off what would you call like how do you qualify someone as a shopaholic?

Shove: 8:49

Someone that's buy stuff to the point where like, they can't afford it. They might start using their credit cards what station it'd be doing. Someone that always has an excuse for like why they need it but it's things that are unnecessary to the point where it's not treating yourself anymore it's just like to access

Rebel: 9:12

I feel like a shopaholic is someone yeah who maybe like goes after that feeling like they definitely feel a high when they purchase things.

Shove: 9:24

Even good studies, but everyone gets that high. But like

Rebel: 9:27

you're like addicted to the high Yeah, it's like you really really like it. Yeah, yeah. So you still don't think you qualify as a shopaholic?

Shove: 9:37

Obviously kidding. Everyone knows I'm a shopaholic. They see how many outfits I have. I could go probably two three months, three months or four months without repeating them outfit

Rebel: 9:49

without repeating an article within the outfit or

Shove: 9:53

I probably could have like an article but like repeat But yeah, I could go

Rebel: 9:59

Yeah. I think I could go a month and a half without changing outfits without repeating an outfit. Okay, so what do you think about the fact that we're shopping? Like is it bad? Is it good is it

Shove: 10:18

that's like, think about how much more money we would have if we didn't like buy all these things that we don't need. And think about like how it's bad for the environment because even though we're not like buying stuff and throwing it away, it's just like consuming and consuming and consuming capitalism. Yeah, and then like, I don't know like obviously both of us are shopaholics as we know now we have reasons for it that we understand

Rebel: 10:48

aka go back to poverty complex episode makes with also mental health mixed with mental health. That was the big eye opener for me is I didn't realize that mental health was connected to shopping like, for me, when we talked about poverty complex before we ever did the episode. I felt like it opened my eyes a lot to like, Oh, this is the reason why I really like things and even like, talking to one of my friends, she's always like, Yeah, dude, like, uh, we grew up poor, like, that's why we like things so much. Like, we never got to have things and so now I can afford things. It's like really, really exciting. So like, I get that but um, yeah, so it's definitely not good. And let's talk a little bit about the like, relationship between mental health and shopping because that one for me was a new realization.

Shove: 11:48

Why?

Rebel: 11:49

Well, I just didn't realize like I kind of thought that it wasn't related at all. And then the other day so the reason why we're doing this episode right now is because we both just kind of went on a shopaholic binge and like we were like oh like we need to stop like that

Shove: 12:14

was it some miles on those cars? Yeah,

Rebel: 12:17

we we went shopping a lot and we like did not need to go shopping so and

Shove: 12:21

only one of those places was like it wasn't necessity but did we go overboard and say yeah, I need a new bra but then like let's just replace all our ibraaz

Rebel: 12:31

Okay, I actually didn't have any browser fit me so I feel like for me that one was justify my didn't fit either. But like I had zero that fit Did you have any of the fit? See then I don't I think that one was justified. For me. It was like so I'm actually returning a couple of things. One of them happened when I was returning something I returned something and then I ended up buying more stuff at the place I returned the thing at and I was like I'm so stupid I shouldn't have done that. But that's why I like returning things by mail so like I have two things that I have to return one I'm so sad because it's a pair of shoes that I was going to make in a roller skates oh

Shove: 13:11

they don't fit

Rebel: 13:12

they don't fit so I was really excited about them but it's good because we spent a bunch of money is somewhere else so like I'm glad that I'm returning it and then whenever I buy a bunch of stuff I always go to the closet and go okay what can you get rid of and sell to try and like make up for the money that I spent but yeah, yeah, so yeah, so for me I didn't realize that like mental illness was Connect Can you explain to the audience like how mental illness is connected to shine? No,

Shove: 13:45

like I haven't researched it and that's why why I don't know that it is such a side effect of ADHD Okay, Rebel and bypoll aka me so like for me it's like something always know like anytime you watch like a movie or show and they're like oh, and it's like someone that's bipolar. It's like shows them in a manic episode and they are buying and buying and buying and my just getting that rush off of that. And like Yeah,

Rebel: 14:17

do you believe Yeah, I mean, do you know like, what the ADHD thing is connected to

Shove: 14:25

now that's probably the dopamine That is why just like a higher addiction to the dopamine or something. Yeah, so if I had to guess like, because shopee and like they did a study and it showed like that people's eyes even dilate. I think we've talked about this on here before To be honest, but like your eyes do dilate, your pupils dilate. And you have this look of like the hunt of looking for everything. And then that feeling will last like up to like 10 minutes or something after you buy it and then you're like, crash. That was fine. And either you're just fine. You're like Kelly to feel that again. And that's where they I always say like shopping therapy is a huge thing. Like people always like, oh, retail therapy. Because when you're sad you shot because you get that little high dopamine from buying things.

Rebel: 15:12

I feel like for me, it's like that i hyper fixate on like something whether it's like me hyper fixating on like my wardrobe and needing it to be perfect. Or like, hyper fixating on like a room or on like the house in general, like and so then I'll just start buying things for whatever it is that I'm trying. And then I'll just go like, way too hardcore in the pain. And then I'll be like, yikes.

Shove: 15:40

And I'll become obsessed with something and think this is it. This is my thing, happy of happiness. Like, I'm gonna start scrapbooking like I was like addicted to the six off here that like literally just journals, but art journals and I start following all these art journaling things, and like was obsessed with it. So I was like, I'm gonna do that. So I bought like, a couple $100 in a short amount, like I was like, obsessed. And that was like, I'd have everything and I was just like ordering ordering ordering. And like now undergraduates, right, like so much random like craft, like stationery and stuff. And I'm just like, Oh, I haven't touched that in like four months. But like, that's what happens. And it's just like, I get like a rise of clothings leaves you like the first thing, but if like, there's something at the time that I'm like, this is what I want. And yeah, that's bad. Because then afterwards, I'm like, Oh, it's never or not lately, like back when I was like struggling like really like making minimum wage. I remember being like, this is really bad, cuz like my daddy's even say like, it's like money's burning a hole in your pocket. Like, as soon as you get it, you just like run out, spend it. And definitely that was true. And now it's like, I have to stash money away and be like, don't touch it at all You're allowed to have. But then it does get really bad. And it's like Halloween. So I'm like, let's just buy a Halloween costume stuff, even though I'm like, you shouldn't like I think that's what I'm obsessed with right now. Like, oh, in costume stuff. Yeah, like I was like searching and I stopped myself so many times, I almost spent way too much money on this dress. And I was like it prior, I talked a lot about it. So I was like, it probably won't fit. So don't do it. And it's like really hard online. Because unless it's like a shop, I know what sizes I wear. Because it's so easy to spend too much, especially when you find brands that are like I've been trying to not just buy fast fashion. So like it's worse because I went from being able to like buy one item that supposed to be better for the environment and last longer. But then I'm like, Oh, I couldn't have been like three things. fast fashion store. And I'm just trying to do my part. But now it's just like, maybe worse, because I want to buy more things when it is more expensive. Like

Rebel: 18:03

going more into the hole. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely not good.

Shove: 18:08

And these are like, obviously, like we were saying, like, it's fine for us to be together that we wish together. And like we feed each other odd because a lot of times, like if I'm like going down, I'm like, I want to go to the store all day, but don't buy anything just like I'm not and I'm like you always do that every time I look over and she has her hands full of clothes, or random knickknacks.

Rebel: 18:32

I know, I know, but I always love them. I will say that I don't have as much of the like, whatever that dopamine let down. I don't have as much of that. Like, I don't feel like Oh crap, I need to like shop again. Because I feel like I don't feel that high anymore. It's like for me the high last like, as I'm continuing to use it. So like I feel like I don't know, like I don't have as much as it's not as like, I don't know, I do think that there's like I'm get super, super proud of myself because I'll take a long time and I won't spend any money at all and I'll be like, Oh my god, I just saved so much money. And then something like snaps in my head and I'm like, I have to spend money. Like I spent so long like I'll do like a month without spending any money and then all of a sudden I'll be like, I can't do it. I can't do it. Like I have to spend money again. And then I feel so stressed out because I spent too much money in like a short amount of time. And it's overwhelming. Anyway. So it's an addiction and we're trying to deal with it. And I feel like we're majorly exposing ourselves right now, but I'm sure there are other people who struggle with this,

Shove: 19:49

though. Um, I think that's one of the jokes is like, Well, when I make more money, it'll be better because like I don't know like maybe I won't be so broken I'll have my shopping addiction but I'll be able to stay afloat and then no you'd make more money and then you spend it's like oh my god like you might not be poor anymore but you're still late rich like get it together and it's just like, I don't know I don't know why I get so happy in the joy of like, things that brings me and it's like, I know that it shouldn't maybe we need to join like a shoppers anonymous or something.

Rebel: 20:32

Fuck no. I've been in anonymous groups and I will never be a part of them. Again,

Shove: 20:39

I've volunteered at a scenario one time that's really interesting. I do community service necessary for another time

Rebel: 20:48

very excited for that story.

Shove: 20:50

But yeah, so if you have a shopping addiction let's go on a shopping trip to get there let's go to the Mall of America

Rebel: 20:59

let's not I actually like I don't know like I do feel like I enjoy shopping with you. But I don't really like shopping with a lot of people like it actually like it's not as fun for me.

Shove: 21:14

I think now I have fun shopping with you but I used to hate it because rebels are kind of personnel take like 50 items of the fitting room and I don't try things out I'm just like dude don't let's go and like I speed through and she like me when the dressing rooms are open I feel like you would just like go so slow and take your time and they're faster now but then you'd like take it off to the fitting room and then you'd be like babe look at this because it's an exercise for me I'm like let's go in and help him and out of here on to them

Rebel: 21:52

which I feel like makes it more of an addiction for you

Shove: 21:56

because I know what I like I go in and I'm like this is my style like right now I'm into like 70s Rock and Roll so let's go and I like know exactly when I'm looking for like a like 70s rock'n'roll 90s grunge I have this idea so it doesn't fit that genre then I keep on walking so I'm used to just like to dip into through everything and then snatch the things and then I look at it and it's not like I just buy everything I still have the moment of like no not this I know that but when I am at kind of like a high which like lately I've been feeling like a little bit of it like I think I'm on a high right now. I will just buy everything and that's it like I'm doing pretty neutral mentally because I'll reason with like you don't need this and then there's other times where like this last weekend where I'm just like observing all these brides like I know it's a problem and I won't look at price tags and that's when I'm like like so good like what I had to pay for the fries I had a moment of like that was not your

Rebel: 23:06

But you told me like oh this is my budget Yeah, I

Shove: 23:09

was like $50 over but then what did I do? I said okay, let's go for 21 but guess what? I bought three things one was free the pants were supposed to be $12 to charge me $1 I'll this$6 for three things and it was amazing but then the pants and it fit so

Rebel: 23:27

but you still only spent$6 Yeah, yeah And meanwhile I was like okay don't let me spend anything and then I ended up getting three things but they're the cutest three things and I still love them and I'm still not over the high and that was like two days ago See I told you one day ago whatever

Shove: 23:45

I think I get over the high ones I

Rebel: 23:47

wear it

Shove: 23:49

like all wear it and then like I'm like oh that was cute. And then I'm like okay, yeah, I still will wear it but I don't get that like excitement. Now it's a staple piece in my closet. You know,

Rebel: 24:00

you know and I really like I like wearing new shoes a lot. I really like like new sneakers these days I'm like oh my god I'm wearing these new sneakers like they like so fresh like I'm like obsessed with that they like okay, anyways,

Shove: 24:20

I don't want to talk about this cringe shopping anymore. Okay, like you said exposed and uncomfortable. And I feel like it's access but I feel like a lot of people I know. Have like both my Derby wives definitely are addicted to shopping. Other Yeah,

Rebel: 24:43

I also think it's a trauma response. Yeah, definitely. Like I feel like when you have so much trauma sometimes you find comfort in things. And in spaces that are like really curated and like specific and You know, a lot of times when you have a lot of trauma, your home isn't like that. And so being able to go and spend time in a place, and like get things that match a certain like, vibe can make you feel better. Not that's not advice. That's just me analyzing why we're like the way we are. Anyways, let's move on to the therapists know, I've just been in therapy since February now. So I'm pretty much an expert. Nice, nice. Self High Five rebel.

Shove: 25:32

Alright, let's move on over to the world,

Rebel: 25:35

the wheel world. And the wheel world. We're talking about the reality of coming back to Derby. You could take the lead on this one, baby.

Shove: 26:01

I had Derby today, right afterward. That was the thing.

Rebel: 26:07

You look so good for coming home from Derby. After working? No, like really?

Shove: 26:17

So um, I don't know, it's a trip. Like I thought it was like, come back to Derby. It's like, yeah, there's been a pandemic, but also like, I think a year, a year and a half before that I quit. And definitely was in the best shape of my life because I was in Derby, and then just stopped being so. So anyways, I thought, Oh, I can come back to Germany now and just like, be eased into it. And it'll be fine, because I have fresh meat. But since there's not that many people there, and most of the people showing off up are like, travel team level. It's like they're just like, yeah, let's just throw everyone together. I have noticed that the other fresh meats aren't showing up except for one. So which means that he would assume like, Well, shall we know you, unlike other people honestly actually skated the whole time. So you're good, like, and so then they have as me to be like crazy drills and stuff and like, I don't care. Like, how much you ski? Or what kind of skating you do. You come over to Derby and everything hurts. Yes, everything hurt. It's like a different you're using like you're getting low. It's it's definitely a lot of controlling things, you have to stop a certain way you have to transition a certain way. Like you have to work on your good and bad ways. Some new parts of your body are hurting because maybe you never turn to the right because you turn to the left naturally. So you're not going to be like Oh, let me go the other way. Unless you're really dedicated like this phasing person over here and want to be a switch button. I

Rebel: 27:58

love to try both ways.

Shove: 28:00

Yeah, I'm bisexual. Yes.

Rebel: 28:04

I don't know. I just think that there's something really great about like, constantly challenging yourself and trying things on both sides.

Shove: 28:11

Yeah. Um, yeah, so the body pain is real. Today was really hard because it was like CrossFit. And skates like bear crawls and sit ups and squats and then suicides which is when you like, skate one person's doing like workouts until you like skate really fast to the other side of the rink and then stop as fast as possible also the rink was oh my god I don't know if they're cleaning the floor so slippery but it was I know I've seen them blow like use a blower to get stuff off but it was extra slick today and what's crazy is I was just there yesterday and it was fine. But today like my toe stops I turn on to stop and I would slide back do you think it's a wind the wind by blowing dust and stuff because it's not real walls so it's probably like it's I don't know but it was so hard and like even just trying to skate fast slipping out people are falling left and right. So I felt like uncomfortable but anyways yeah so so let me go back so suicides are like when you skate really fast and and stop the way you can stop the fastest so for me it's Toronto stops I would like stop and then escape back and do it again. And then you skate back and then you skate back again and then you let your partner stop then they do it and then you have to do the workout until they finish so you're like please be fast and like he was pretty good she got slim in but like for me I was going fast and I was so happy. It was my barians that were slowing me down. Oh man I was doing the Sprint's yesterday I was like I know a skate faster than this and I was freaking struggling I can Ellie was able to pass Someone barely for a little bit that I knew I could out skate. But it was like I couldn't even coast I had a key. I was getting so tired. And it was because my bearings like Well, today I was faster. But like my body was so tired because of all the squats from yesterday. And it's literally like when you start going to the gym again, that's what Derby is immense, like, Yeah, I know, I'm more confident, like both few coaches have told me Wow, you look so much more confident on your skates. And I do feel that way. But I'm definitely so out of shape, my endurance is shot, and like my back hurts, My feet hurt if you don't hurt too bad, but like my thighs are so sore. Like I'm not used to having to skate and get so low.

Rebel: 30:44

I have been skating like y'all know, like, I've been skating, I've been skating more than I've ever skated. And I came back to Derby, I've only been back to like two practices. And my back hurts so bad. Like, it hurts so bad. I feel like I can't even do the most basic things anymore. Like the most basic things I can't do like as in like, I dropped my pen right here, right before this started. And I was trying to lean over to pick up my pen. And I was like, I can't do it. Like I can't reach it because I have extreme pain in my lower back.

Shove: 31:23

Yeah, and I already have naturally really bad but so what I've been doing this season that's different than last time is when I feel like too much pain, I just stop and I go to the side and I wait it out. So I see that they're like working on something new that I feel like I can handle more, or I just like wait for a couple minutes, and then I'll go back out and pick up. But I'm not feeling like the first time I felt pressure. And what's so stupid about that as I probably made my back worse. Because I would like be like, No, I have to do that I have to do what they say and I'm in pain. So I would get like Icy Hot patches and like, I have them on underneath my leggings. I had them on my bag like covered and I'm causing so much pain. I remember talking to soy one of our coaches. And I was like yeah, like I don't know if I can do dairy like my back just hurts so bad. And like, I don't know what's wrong. Like it's never been like this now before and she was like you should go to a chiropractor. And that did nothing. But the more I skated, the less I hurt. So now it's all about like, body conditioning, and we're just trying to get back into like, that kind of schema. Yeah,

Rebel: 32:32

cuz it is totally different. Yeah,

Shove: 32:36

I wish UK struggle, but you would have hated it tonight.

Rebel: 32:39

I would have hated it. I I feel like as soon as skating feels like an exercise. So like, as soon as we're just like, all we're doing is exercising on skates. I'm like, yeah, I'm not interested anymore.

Shove: 32:54

I really was like, I'm bored. Just like this isn't like Derby I got bored.

Rebel: 32:59

Yeah. And I think that that's like an issue with people like me. And Healy, who is like, I don't actually like working out. I know there are a lot of people that do like they like going to the gym like they like like working out. I don't. And that's why skating works for me, because it doesn't feel like going to the gym. But as soon as it feels like going to gym, but just like with skates on, which just all that means is like, with the weights on your feet. It's like No thanks.

Shove: 33:27

Yeah, so I don't know, it's like, I also had an epiphany. yesterday. I'm the coach, aka our friend, awkward skater was late. And then I was like, can I run? Lead rebel asked her. And she was like, yeah, and then Rebel had a whistle. So that I was like a Capricorn stream, I have the power. I get to tell people what to do.

Rebel: 33:54

So it would make a really great coach was born for

Shove: 33:57

this. So I ran warmups, and it's like, I'm knowledgeable. And even though like I've been gone from Derby a long time, even before the pandemic, I was hoping now for a few practices that read room for their freshies. And I really like to teach people things. And as they say, what is it like those that can do and those that can't teach? Sorry, some people do a lot with skinny mints a lot. Like I've gotten people to drop in and stall and do these tricks. And just because I'm observing and I can see what they need to fix and it's like a little equation goes off. And for me, it's just like, my fear gets in the way or I just don't want to, I don't understand it. And that's fine. But I'm really good at like breaking it down or seeing like the little things that people can tweak to like when things so like, I was like, Man, this is so much fun. Like this is what I would want to do. And like what we just don't have any like freshies right now, but I think in the future like that's what I would want to do like about would be fun, but I'm like Right now about it. I think

Rebel: 35:02

that like, people say, I think that the reason why I hate that phrase so much is because it totally discredit all teachers ever. And it also like, takes away the idea that like teaching is an actual skill. It's not like, Oh, I don't have these skills. So I guess I'll fall back on the thing that doesn't require any skills. It's like no, like, there are a lot of really poor teachers. There are a lot of really poor teachers. But there are a lot of really bad teachers out there who are teaching well, because they don't have the skill and the talent to be a teacher. And you definitely have the skill and the talent to be a teacher. Yeah. Anyways, I would love to about but I also still kind of feel like one my body definitely is not ready. Not even close. Not even kind of, and to I still don't feel safe about because that's like literally getting up in people's faces and sweating and like breathing hard for a long time, like right up next to each other. So I think that Nah, fam. I'm good. Like, I don't want to do that yet.

Shove: 36:12

Yeah, Jesse was saying that they might do it to where he goes, Jesse. Yeah, that'll be like smaller. Oh, no, it was Marie. Marie said that they might change the rules to be smaller walls. So it would just be like, two, three? Yeah, isn't it for it's for the Jaguar. And so it would just be like two and one or three and then the jammer comes through. So

Rebel: 36:36

to make it a faster game? Yeah. So

Shove: 36:38

it'd be less people on the track was people so close together? I mean, all other major sports are figuring it out. Come on with.

Rebel: 36:47

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's wrestling back in though I feel like that's what I compare Derby to. All the time is wrestling. Probably because what

Shove: 36:57

they're doing is just making them get constantly tested, but also like, they make money from it instead of pay money. You're making money, you're gonna do anything. They're like, definitely safe and test negative. Yeah, for sure. Be able to still play.

Rebel: 37:12

Yeah, that's definitely not the case. For me.

Shove: 37:17

It was it's just like, that's the other thing. Like we have a shopaholic. It's fun to like, buy things and paying for things like that. But it's not fun to like pay for, like Derby, or bills. Yeah, fun. And it used to be $40. I was paying $10 a month, even when I left stopped playing, because I was still in the league because I wanted like the perks. And so but then now after the pandemic, now it's $60 a month about inflation. So that's really hard to reason we're in it is because they owed rebel money from pre for the pandemic she had paid for the whole year. So we're like, well, let's just write it out and see what happens.

Rebel: 37:59

And yeah, because I definitely can't afford that.

Shove: 38:03

Crazy. No, it's our shopping.

Rebel: 38:06

Well, but even just bills and stuff. I don't know, I feel like, you know, and that's not true for every League, like every league is different. Like, that's just our league. So

Shove: 38:18

I remember sitting in Derby orientation, and like being like, okay, seems cool. And then when they went over, like the price of things, and I was that person that randomly bought Moxie lollies right before Dre Derby cuz I was like, well, these are cute, and I can wear fur, do we? Yeah. And then everyone's like, well, we would recommend a speed boat. And I was like, Well, I'm not gonna buy another pair of skis. Oh, Talia couldn't use them, which I did. But then they're like, you need full safety gear. I had no gear. And they were like, that could be about 100 and something dollars. You need a helmet that could be $40 then you have to get insurance. skeeters insurance was like $85 Yeah. And then you have an ESP that for every year, and then you have play dues. And then that was $40 a month and I was like, Oh, my God. Yeah, I

Rebel: 39:15

remember being like, what am I there's no way I can do this. I remember that feeling.

Shove: 39:22

Yeah. And I was just like, I can't there's no way and then I had this I saved up and then I was like, I think I'd use my credit card which had like a very low limit on the time and I was like, Alright, I'm gonna like figure this out and do what I can do and I just made it work and lucky enough like the skate shop had a slight discount for the derby members back then. But, man that was tough to be like this is a huge commitment. But then like once you pay for all you know all your skincare, you're like, I'm set for the most part.

Rebel: 39:56

Yeah, I definitely put all my Get stuff on a credit card. Because I was like, I don't know what this is so much money.

Shove: 40:06

Yeah, but I think a lot of people especially since there's so many more skaters out there, like I hear a lot. I'm like, Oh my god, Jeremy. Yeah, I want to join that. And like, I think they're not under estimating like, one it's like you're signing apollyon leads for Colt. Yeah, like right now doesn't feel like it. But when it's regular, definitely, because it's like all you know, is like, like already right now, you probably only have a skater. So like, in Derby, it's like, that's your own little world. And then like, you're also going to bounce but then you have to be in committees. So even though you're gonna be there, if you want to be in the league, you also have to be at a committee, which means you have a job to do. So like everything self run, so yeah, yeah.

Rebel: 40:50

And that's true for every league. Yeah, for the most part. Yeah.

Shove: 40:54

Yeah. And it's just like, there's so many to me, um, how high you get like, there's so many practices, you have to go or you won't

Rebel: 41:00

be and then there's like cross training, you have to go to those different

Shove: 41:04

levels, you have to pass assessments written and practical. Yeah, that's right. So it's like, it's cool, because you learn a lot. But I think people underestimate like the amount of time and money it takes as well.

Rebel: 41:19

It's definitely time consuming and expensive.

Shove: 41:21

But if you can't afford it, like a lot of leagues do offer scholarships, or like reduced rates, but you just have to ask and, like submit an application sometimes. And they can determine like what it could be, because I know that there were some skaters on scholarship in our league, and I thought that was awesome. Or sometimes you can coach and then you don't have to pay. So there are cool things like that. And there

Rebel: 41:44

are some leagues that are less expensive than others. And there are some leagues that require less of their people than others.

Shove: 41:53

And then there's some that's way more like they want you there four times a week. They want you to do CrossFit they want you to be on a diet Yeah, that's like crazy, like look super competitive with their teams. Like I would never want to like I don't want Jeremy to be my whole life. Like to that point extra. There

Rebel: 42:12

was a moment in time that I thought I wanted that she was

Shove: 42:15

like, I'm gonna be a derby superstar.

Rebel: 42:18

I remember like trying to manifest that. And I say trying to manifest because I did not manifest it obvious

Shove: 42:25

winner. She even had a YouTube channel called keeping it fresh mate with rebel rouser in her intro, she was in her Derby. Oh my gosh, I'm so bad. It was

Rebel: 42:37

so bad. It was so bad. If at first you don't succeed. Try again. Do something different.

Shove: 42:44

So yeah, you know, you got to get started. Everything will get you know. Yeah. But yeah, so Derby is a thing. It's back. We're still suffering. I don't know how I feel about it.

Rebel: 42:58

Yeah, I've had sorry. I've had a lot of people be like, so how do you feel about Derby now that you're back? It's like, I love Derby. And I will always love Derby. I just don't know where I stand with like, is this gonna be my thing that I do? I don't know. Is it gonna be something else? That's also only

Shove: 43:17

between like five to eight people showing up? Right? Yeah, so it's totally different price hike, and we're still on a pandemic. So that's like hard because you don't have that flow. Like, I feel like I'm part of something. And we're all suffering together. And like the two peat tools people are juniors, so it's like, I love my juniors. But like, it's not that I don't really and then like, I try to censor myself a little bit more around them, because they're kids.

Rebel: 43:48

I don't Yeah, I know. A roller derby league.

Shove: 43:51

But yeah, so it sucks. Because usually like, Hello, we're all getting back and trying to be in shape again, like after not doing this. And

Rebel: 44:00

all these kids are just like having no problem.

Shove: 44:03

Yeah, that but what I was gonna say is like, it used to be like a long line of people. So someone would have to do something and then you get to a break, and then someone would do something or even in a paceline. And now it's like, oh, two people with that. Oh, it's my turn again. Yeah, yeah. And then to your so I think that's on top of why I'm so tired. Yeah,

Rebel: 44:23

doing way more work than you ever were before.

Shove: 44:25

Yeah. But yeah, so yeah, roller derby.

Rebel: 44:30

I hope you're enjoying this cozy version of skate date. All right, next up, we're doing fine your skate day. Find your skate D is the portion of this podcast where we connect people skating. With other skaters in their area, so if you're interested in having yourself talked about and amped up, because you need to find some skaters escaped with or a romance with a skater or a mentor or some new Skype mentees, or whatever you want to connect with, send us your bio, your pronouns and a little picture you and your Instagram handle to dear skate date@gmail.com. So today's skate date is fill up. Yay. My name Oh, hello skate date. My name is Philip. He him. I am 19 soon to be 20 Yay. Yay. The love that. Yay. a college student and I live in Gallup New Mexico. However, I'm planning to move to Albuquerque, New Mexico next spring. Okay, fun story. I was supposed to like my last trip besides the one to Fresno. I was supposed to go to Albuquerque, New Mexico. Like that was where I was supposed to go before COVID hit and then it didn't work, obviously. Okay, I would love to meet some new people and potentially make some skate friends. Currently I'm finishing up my associate's degree and looking to start an apprenticeship in plumbing or electrical wiring. Apart from rollerskating I love gardening and hiking. Honestly anything outdoors II I love but I'm always down for some coffee or boba and sitting down for good karma. Love this. I've been skating since March 2021. And I absolutely love it. Yes, I am comfortable going forwards and doing transitions but still a beginner at the skate park I have so much more to learn and with love escape buddy to learn from and learn with my instant is at Sandy underscore bearings. Oh, I love that that's such a good name.

Shove: 47:01

That's awesome.

Rebel: 47:02

I look forward to hanging out with y'all socially distance and Master of course. Also. Please don't quit Shove We love you. Skate date pod wouldn't be the same without the both of y'all. Yeah, obviously escape date pod if it was just me, would not be good. It would just be escape. It wouldn't be a date.

Shove: 47:25

Let's try to teach Bowie how to talk to the sub. Oh my god we just get like subs to to look at this

Rebel: 47:33

picture I fill up Oh, it is really hard to see them on our Instagram.

Shove: 47:39

When Liza stepped in where we just had more of that like people. You'd be like, shoves in a mood I need you to step in for skate date. Let's just random people.

Rebel: 47:49

You know what? If we just had random people nearby they were willing to randomly step in shore but we don't. Because we never know I don't want to do that. I want to do we

Shove: 48:01

do it. She's in a monogamous skate day.

Rebel: 48:05

I am.

Shove: 48:07

Alright, find your skate date with Philip. Alright, let's go to deer shovel.

Rebel: 48:26

In deer shovel, what do we do? Oh no. And deer shovel. Y'all send us questions about anything literally anything? And then we answer them and we give good answers. We give bad answers. Sometimes we don't even tell you what's the good answer and what's the bad answer? It's all part of the fun

Shove: 48:46

because we're just full of crap.

Rebel: 48:48

So if you have a question Email us at dear ski t@gmail.com and we will answer your email I just got this overwhelming feeling of like what are we doing being so vague? We're just like sitting on our couch like talking it feels like when we're when we're at in the garage. It feels like so like we have our microphones but here it just feels like we're just like jogging the game right? Like it doesn't feel

Shove: 49:19

real but you do this all the time with skates and shot. I know but there's

Rebel: 49:23

like it's alive of escape jets. Anyways, Okay, so here's our dear shovel question. What are oh dear shovel. Dear shovel? What are some ways to include your non skating partner in your skate time activities?

Shove: 49:47

Oh, dump them? No,

Rebel: 49:51

no.

Shove: 49:53

Escape from say learn or it's over. No, that is not 100 I definitely think that it is they don't even want to skate the last red flag number one.

Rebel: 50:06

Okay,

Shove: 50:07

I'm just kidding.

Rebel: 50:08

What? Kidding. Okay, so I feel like, Well, I do think that you should try and convince them to skate. But obviously you probably already tried that. But I think that there are actually lots of things that are really fun to do at skate events that isn't skating, you know, like, most of the time a skate event happens. And there's like, music or there's like people just like sitting and hanging out. Like, it's not always just skaters skating. Right? Like,

Shove: 50:46

yes and no. So like, for me, sometimes I'm not in the mood to be around people. And rebels like, Oh, my Oh, so I'll go and like, I'll have my skates and I might like skate around a little bit. But like, unless there's people I know there that I can like, they're also chilling on the side, I can, like, hang out and talk with them. Sometimes I have talked to like random people in the skate park. And that's nice for a little while. But I feel like there's not like a lot of stuff to do. And we still got a rink and there's like arcade games and like,

Rebel: 51:22

Well, I mean, because I was thinking like, maybe like at the skate park like it's usually at a park so you could like go walk around, or like at, like Venice, for instance. That's like a skating area. But then there's like foodstuffs.

Shove: 51:41

Yeah, but then like their partner would be doing that all alone is not a fun No. Like, okay, skate stuff that they can do together without them skating right? Is that yeah, it's like time activity non skating. It's like if they have a bike or a scooter or something like they don't have to be in skates was usually it's all wheels. All wheels, welcome. So yeah, like, they could definitely do that. But they would need some sort of wills.

Rebel: 52:10

If your partner likes filming, or photography, or if they've never tried it, and they want to learn filming or photography. I feel like that is an excellent pairing of hobbies. Like a person who's interested in filming or photography. And skater I feel like those pair well together.

Shove: 52:29

Yeah, cuz it's like, I do know some couples that have lasted years and only one of them's a skater. It's rare because I feel like you see every skater roller skater either dates and other roller skater ablator or escape. And so like just happens, but then, like, a lot of people that like have already been together, and then they picked up roller skating. So it's usually like, I think the partners end up being like, what the hell is happening? Why is this your whole life now?

Rebel: 52:59

Yeah, totally takes over your life. For sure. Like, what's

Shove: 53:03

this annoying podcast you're listening to? It's also roller skating?

Rebel: 53:07

Yeah, yeah. Well, Oh, well. Okay, yes, limited

Shove: 53:16

things you can do. If you

Rebel: 53:18

play roller derby. Your partner can be a official

Shove: 53:24

or ref or a fan or a fan.

Rebel: 53:29

Um,

Shove: 53:30

I think that's it.

Rebel: 53:32

Yeah, I think that's pretty much it.

Shove: 53:35

Yeah, sorry. We suck. I don't warn you. We said dear shovel. shitty advice. Data shovel is like why do we need the shovel to dig through the shit

Rebel: 53:52

whatever. I think that was good advice still. Okay, so guess what, babe?

Shove: 53:59

Oh, man, I do have a five star review.

Rebel: 54:01

We have another five star review. Do you want to read it?

Shove: 54:05

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Rebel: 54:32

and me loves podcasts. That's so great. I love that to me, thank you so much me those podcast. We love me skate date loves me.

Shove: 54:46

Did you talk about what five star are?

Rebel: 54:49

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Shove: 55:53

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Rebel: 56:05

Yeah, it's um cheers to the curse calm. I am hosting a man Shove are hosting No no. I'm hosting but Shove is helping me a glam rock couture queer prom on roller skates. I still haven't been asked it. Because you're not around enough. You have to be around during the day. On November 13th Shove the reason why she hasn't been asked. I see. No, it's because she doesn't like like being embarrassed at work. But right now all the time I have free she's at work. That's why she hasn't been asked.

Shove: 56:44

I don't like being embarrassed when I have customers around. customers need more. Oh, I didn't know that was I literally work with like, three people.

Rebel: 56:55

Oh, good to know. So, um, anyways, so if you want to support us, you could do that. And I feel like a high schooler like playing with my

Shove: 57:06

It's okay. I've been there most podcasts like this because this is what comforts me and this is what I do when I have baggy shirts. I love to pull my shirt over my nose. It's like I knew and the feature that I'd have to wear mask. It's like a safety mechanism. mechanism. I feel safe. I'm a turtle.

Rebel: 57:27

Turtle.

Shove: 57:33

Alright, y'all, it's been a real nice keep doing it again.

Rebel: 57:37

Thanks for listening to our episode, skate D We love you so much.

Shove: 57:41

See you next Wednesday next

Rebel: 57:44

Wednesday. Pew pew pew